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jamisan
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suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« on: April 02, 2011, 02:11:43 PM »

Looking for the best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less. Primarily for taking pictures of the night sky
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Re: suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 04:25:51 PM »

I use a Sigma 30mm f1.4 and I am very happy with the results.  What sort of objects in the night sky are you wanting to photograph?
Ken
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Bob Atkins
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Re: suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 05:10:48 PM »

Wny non-Canon? Cost, quality, availability?

The best lens would probably be the 35/1.4L, but it's a Canon. There's also the Canon 35/2, 50/1.4 and even the good old 50/1.8.

I'd advise sticking with a full frame lens, even if you have a crop sensor body because you're going to want minimum vignetting and maximum corner quality with the lens wide open. The larger image circle of the full frame lens will give you both on a crop sensor body. Of course you can shoot full frame and crop.

What I'd avoild would be a crop sensor lens on a crop sensor body, but I think about the only crop sensor prime would be the above mentioned Sigma 30/1.4, which I suspect will vignette and give somewhat soft corners when shot wide open.

You might also look at some of the older manual  focus Pentax lenses which can be adapted to EOS. You can use live view for focusing (assuming you have an EOS body with Live View). They're likely to be a lot cheaper than most current AF lenses. You can find 50mm, 35mm, 28mm and 24mm lenses without too much trouble.

The Zeiss 21mm f2.8 is reputed to be very good, but it's not cheap.

See http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/eosfaq/manual_focus_EOS.html for more info on non-AF lenses.
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klindup
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Re: suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2011, 12:41:51 AM »

I certainly endorse Bob's reccomendation for manual focussing.  I have found that when taking shots of the night sky autofocus seems to be problematic. I got my best results with the camera hooked up to my computer and using live view.  The image could be seen magnified on the computer screen and this made focussing much easier.
Ken
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Re: suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2011, 04:15:32 AM »

I assume you are shooting with a canon camera.  If so, I have the EF 50mm 1.4 and uesd Ken's method to manual focus although the 5D II can focus in "just brighter than pitch black".  It is very inexpensive (around $300).  These 50's are not a bad investment either, I had the 50 1.8 plastic mount.  I bought it for about $100, used it for about 4 years and sold it on e-bay for $80.  Not a bad lens to have for 5 bucks per year.

John
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Bob Atkins
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Re: suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2011, 12:14:35 PM »

I'm afraid those prices are long gone.

The 50/1.8 has now passed the $125 barrier - Canon EF 50/1.8 II

The 50/1.4 has passed the $500 barrier in some stores and is heading for $550 - Canon EF 50/1.4 USM

Adorama still have the 50/1.4 for under $450 at the moment though - http://www.adorama.com/Refby.tpl?refby=rflAID012417&sku=CA5014AFU

An old manual focus lens would be a lot cheaper, though less useful for non-astrophotography use.
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Re: suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 11:00:59 AM »

 I would think for most nighttime in the sky subject matter, subject distance would be great enough to use manual focus and lens set at infinity. 
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Bob Atkins
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Re: suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 12:19:15 PM »

Yes, but it's the "set the lens at infinity" that's the trick. You need very pecise focus. The best way to do that is with a camera with live view and the ability to magnify the image. You cannot depend on either the focus stop or the markings on the lens if you want the best possible results.
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jamisan
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Re: suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 01:01:44 PM »

Budget mostly on the non-canon, just figured they would be a little cheaper. Yes I have a live view the Rebel XSI. I have looked at the Sigma 30mm,very interesting.  Was also thinking maybe an older FD mount since I will and do use manual focus. I have taken some really pretty good shots with the kit lens 18-55mm. I have the 28-135 but want something "faster" IE let more light in. I had the Canon 50mm 1.8 but want something wider. What do you guys think about an FD mount for this?
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Bob Atkins
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Re: suggestion for best, fast non canon prime 50mm or less lens
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2011, 07:12:10 PM »

FD lenses are the worst possible choice. You need optics in the apdater and that ruins the quility, increases the focal length and slows down the speed.

See http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/eosfaq/manual_focus_EOS.html
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http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/canon_fd_eos_adapters.html

Pentax and Nikon lenses are fine since they only need a mechanical adapter.
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